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Are A2345 Straights permitted?

If so, where are they permitted/not permitted(full-tilt, pokerstars, wsop)?

Edit: I can't find anywhere in the official WSOP rules where it says anything about it, the correct answer REQUIRES a citation.

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If only there was a way to find whatever piece of trash, downvoted this serious question. –  GlassGhost Mar 4 at 23:56
    
This question might lead somebody thinking that somewhere it could be that A2345 is not a straight. A2345 - is ALWAYS straight or straight flush. –  MinimeDJ Mar 6 at 11:52
    
@MinimeDJ There are millions of card game variants. I'm certain there is some variant of poker that doesn't allow it, I'm just looking for a(n) authoritative citation. –  GlassGhost Mar 6 at 12:52
    
@TacticalCoder If there is something impertinent or wrong with my question, please point it out. I asked a very serious question, that defines winning conditions. –  GlassGhost Mar 12 at 7:01

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There's not really an "official rules of poker" out there. Asking for a citation for this is like asking for a citation to the rule that states a flush beats a straight. However, the WSOP.com site does have a page on hand ranking :

http://www.wsop.com/how-to-play-poker/hand-ranking.asp

And in it, the WSOP official site states "In Poker, the Ace is the highest card and the 2 card (Deuce) is the lowest. However, the Ace can also be used as a low card, with the value of 1."

The only games that aren't going to count aces in wheel straights or allow aces to be used as a low card are generally going to be lowball games (2-7 Triple Draw, Badeucey, Badacey, Razz, etc). Lowball games can sometimes have crazy rules, even in official card room settings (like not allowing check-raises, or not allowing you to check a made 8).

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My bad I was looking under the section that said "straights" not "ranks". –  GlassGhost Mar 13 at 6:26

I am an online player and can guarantee you that every major online poker room considers A2345 a straight. The reason it is so hard to find a citation is because it is considered common knowledge (So if there exists a poker room where a2345 is not a straight the designers clearly just didnt know the rules).

Here is a list of reputatble organizations rulebooks that have a clause for the rule:

EDIT: I stand corrected. After some more research I found out that the straight rule applies only for the more conventional poker games(Holdem, 5 card drow ect.) There are variations like Ace-to-five low you can find here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowball_(poker) that do not consider a2345 a straight. That said rules dont depend on the room or casino where you play but rather on the game you are playing.

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While I have no experience with any on-line sites, I've never seen a casino poker game where A2345 wasn't a straight. On the other hand, KA234 is never a straight.

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Sorry I can't mark this as accepted, but your answer did invoke a caveat to be added to the question. –  GlassGhost Mar 5 at 0:01
    
Will a Wikipedia link do? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poker_hands#Straight It's the best I can find. –  DoxyLover Mar 5 at 3:34

A2345 is always a straight. Online, in casinos, and everywhere

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It's called a "wheel straight" (every single poker website on which I played accepted wheel straight) and although I don't find it in the rules, it's mentioned in several PDFs accessible from the site wsop.com.

You can google, for example, for (using site: to restrict the search to wsop.com):

site:wsop.com "wheel straight"

And you'll find, among other sentences, the following one:

"Stu Ungar won his third and final WSOP Main Event in 1997 after his Ace-Four beat John Strzemp's Ace-Eight, when a river deuce gave Ungar the wheel straight and the victory"

I didn't know that Stu Ungar won his last Main Event with a wheel straight. That is kinda cool!

And, obviously, if you can win a Main Event with that hand, I'd say that the hand is legit and that the source is authoritative enough ; )

For the little story he had:

A♥ 4♣ vs A♠8♣

on the final board:

flop: 5⋄ A♣ 3♥ turn: 3⋄ river: 2♠

Here's a Youtube video showing that last hand:

Stu Ungar's wheel straight winning WSOP Main Event in 1997

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Sad that from such an authoritative poker institution that the closest thing we have to an actual clause in the official rules regarding the rule, is a historical citation. I will add your citation in the accepted answer. –  GlassGhost Mar 12 at 6:44

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