# Counting outs? Any websites provide this?

I often look at a hand + community cards and fail to see the number of outs mentioned.

A number of sites, such as http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem offer odds, but I can't find one that will list the outs given a hand and flop for NLHE.

Anyone know one please? (or has written code for one?)

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This depends on what "outs" you are looking for. In some cases a pair can be an out, in others making 4 of a kind is the only way you'll win. First you need to determine what sort of hand you think you need make to win. Only then can you determine the different ways to make that hand. – Chris Marasti-Georg Jun 20 '14 at 14:55
This is also a good video explaining the odds and outs: pokervip.com/en/coaching-videos/odds-outs – user3152 Mar 19 '15 at 15:17

## 3 Answers

Here is a chart that will show you the outs in certain hand/board combinations and also includes things such as the percentages by turn/river (you can work out rough percentages by using the 4 and 2 rule once your know your outs).

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But again, all based on the 'right' count of outs? IMHO it's too easy to make an error! Best I've found to date is pokerology.com/lessons/drawing-odds – Dave P Jun 20 '14 at 11:01
I'm afraid I don't follow what you mean by "right count of outs". As long as you know what your drawing too and what hand you currently hold counting outs is fairly easy. The only complicated part is when you compare dirty outs to your opponents likely holdings. Which the above article explains. – David Hirst Jun 20 '14 at 11:06
You may find it easy. I don't. E.g. Some seems to subtract discounted outs, others don't. – Dave P Jun 21 '14 at 12:13
The link shows 404 error page. – Vlad Mar 16 '15 at 21:06
Link updated thanks Vlad! – David Hirst Mar 17 '15 at 9:52

If you have trouble with outs, that means you have a low level of understanding, that's OK. The best way for you to learn this might be to just lay out hands and all the remaining card. Just play with everything face up and pick the outs. Being a little more visual on it may change your perspective.

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Here is another link, probably similar to the one posted by David, but always worth reading in a couple of places.

http://www.cardschat.com/odds-for-dummies.php

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thanks, useful. – Dave P Jun 20 '14 at 11:02