I am involved in a regular, weekly home tournament league. We play two tournaments each week, 51 weeks a year, points awarded for positions in each tournament.
Our 'house rules' have devloped over the years, 'hopefully' in accordance with 'official' Poker rules.
One series of rule that arises from time to time involves 3-way ALLINs, where the big stack wins the hand.
Consider Player A with 10,000 chips, ends up with a flush. Player B with 6,000 chips, ends up with K high. Player C with 4,000 chips, ends up with pair of 8's.
If this happens at the end of the tournament, Player A would be awarded 1st place (of course), and 2nd/3rd place awarded according to chip count going in to the All-IN hand. So Player B would be second, and player C would be third (despite Player C having the stronger hand than player B)
But......if the same 3-way allin arose in the 'middle' of the tournament, we have been applying a different rule - basing position on the hand strengths (of the second and third player in the hand) (But thinking about it now, I'm not sure if this is correct :-( )
So here, Player A wins the hand and stays in the tournament. But......we would say Player B went OUR of the tournamenet BEFORE Player C, because C held the higher hand (and ignoring chip count going in to the ALLIN hand) Even though both players are OUT of the tournament, position to us is still important as they are awarded different points.
Am thinking now that it should positions should 'probably' be determined on Stack Size at ANY stage of the tournament.
In particular, a theoretical situation might also arise (although 'we' haven't yet had to deal with it) would be if, in the middle of the tournament, there is a 3-way ALLIN, Big Stack wins, but the other two players had the same hand! eg. both held pocket 10's. With out 'current' house rule of basing position on hand strengths, we would be stuck.
Thanks for the replies.....
I accept that we can apply whatever house rules we want :-) I just wondered what the 'official' rule might be (if such a thing exists) in a major tournament.
Sounds like 'it still depends....' lol...
I liked your reply Grinch91 - you understand my dilemma. You say you don't like the 'stack size option', and that you believe they should just share the winnings from both positions between them.
But then you go on to mention if it is a 'points league type of situation'. For us, it is. You get points awarded in each game based on your position. (we play around 100 games per year, with a trophy and prize funds going to the winner based on points).
I don't think 'sharing' the points is an option, since we use an app to record everything, and am pretty sure it doesn't have the facility to share points :-(
And you say that you have never heard of any place using hand strength to determine 2nd and 3rd positions. And in fact, 'I' don't understand the logic of that either, so not sure why we have 'that' house rule, if the situation arises mid-tournamen (as opposed to final 3 when we, for some reason, DO apply the 'stack size option')
I think I will suggest to the group that we ALWAYS apply the 'stack size option'.
It would also cover off the unusual situation (although it DID arise for us last week), when in mid-tournament, the losing 2 players in a 3-way all-in had the SAME HAND. Using out current 'hand strength option' there was an argument on what to do. But if we always adopt the 'stack size option' we'd know what to do (unless they ALSO had the same stack size, although that would have to be a VERY RARE circumstance.....)