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In some Facebook game, (in tournament game, where all player starts with the same stack), I always notice that in the VERY first hand (before the flop) , people blatantly all-in. Unfortunately,not just 2 or 3 people out of 8 decides to all-in, but in some extreme condition, 5 or 6 people all-in (So the winner usually ends up with $5000 or $6000)

The question

1] Why people do this? Does people regularly does this in real-life?

2] What kind of hand will made all-in this situation a good bet? (Or it's a simple, Dont Do This?) Why?

Thanks!

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  • Wasn't there a book out there that advocated this? I didn't read it, but if I remember right, isn't this one of the "Kill Phil" strategies out there. Having said that, I do agree with the other answers, play money is nothing like real life. Jul 7, 2014 at 16:50
  • For one simple reason: Any two hole cards, however bad, can win.
    – Robbie Dee
    Jul 18, 2014 at 15:24

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This sounds like a play money game, am I correct?

If so, then I can assure you these same people would not be doing this in a real money game in almost all typical circumstances, except maybe a tournament structure where the blinds are very high relative to stack sizes.

The simple answer to your second problem is, a better starting hand than your opponents. Ideally the fewer opponents you're up against the better, as your relative hand strength will be superior than in situations as you describe, with multiple all-ins. A simple starting hand chart should give you a good point to begin from when making these decisions. In general, just pay attention to your opponents hands that they show, and adjust your own all-ins accordingly to take advantage.

I suggest depositing a very small amount of money into a real money account on a major poker site and playing very small stakes. You could even just watch a few games after downloading the software to get a feel for what it's like.

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  • You're right, playing some real-money games (even if they're microstakes) will let you see how it's done in the real world, not on some Facebook game where no one knows what they're doing... Jul 7, 2014 at 4:50
  • I agree with Toby. These people are treating poker like a roulette wheel. Now you do occasionally see this happen on micro satellite tourneys where the buy-in is so nominal that people just chuck it in for an edge but pretty much all other games are played properly. Jul 7, 2014 at 9:26
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Why people do this?

Because they are not there to play poker, per se. They are there to have a fun time, and a whole bunch of people all-in is fun. Furthermore, if you aren't there to play seriously, then why waste your time playing hard? Either you lose, and get to go on about your day, or you double (triple, whatever-ple) up, and you get to have fun playing a big stack. Basically some people just don't want to spend a long time losing. Either win big, or go home.

Do people regularly do this in real-life?

I have never seen it in a live tournament or in any cash game play. It happens in small-stake online tournaments frequently enough to piss me off ;), but less than 25% of the time, for sure.

What kind of hand will make all-in this situation a good bet?

If you are asking what kind of hand you need to just shove the first round or so, the answer is aces and maybe kings. No other hands. Why? Most of the time, people are going to fold, and you win a tiny pot that you probably would have won anyway, and the only hands likely to call you are monsters, and you lose your stack (most likely). Why expose yourself to more risk than necessary?

Second, think about why you bet. You bet to make stronger hands/draws fold, or weaker hands call. If you shove all in with anything reasonable, stronger hands are going to call you (they are too strong to fold), and weaker hands will fold to the huge bet. The exact opposite of what you really want.

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