After the river, player 1 bets, player 2 calls, player 1 mucks his cards, does player 2 have to show his cards?
Also since player 2 called, is player 1 obligated to show his cards even though he mucked?
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Sign up to join this communityAfter the river, player 1 bets, player 2 calls, player 1 mucks his cards, does player 2 have to show his cards?
Also since player 2 called, is player 1 obligated to show his cards even though he mucked?
The pot belongs to player 2, and he can claim it with his face-down cards. However, called hands may be shown on request, so if either player asks the dealer to show the other hand, he will (if it is retrievable). In this situation, it would generally be considered rude to ask. Also note that player 2 asks at his own risk--since he is the apparent winner, the dealer will not kill the other hand when asked to show it, and it plays (and therefore might win). If anyone else asks to see a called hand, the dealer will kill it before showing. Casino rules very about who is entitled to ask to see a called hand.
As pointed out below, tournaments are different. If the bet is all in and called, neither player is entitled to muck--all cards must be shown.
Just how is player 1 supposed to show mucked cards?
You immediately forfeit your hand when it hits the muck.
Yes player 2 wins the hand without showing if player 1 mucks.
There was a good argument on this in poker after dark with Phillip Hellmuth and Jean-Robert Bellande. Etiquette or rules
You don't specify whether you mean cash game or tournament, so YMMV here. This answer is relevant to tournaments that are using TDA rules. There were some changes made in 2015 to the TDA rules that affect who has to show cards and when.
So FYI, the WSOP changes this back and forth year-to-year almost. At least it does seem that often. What it actually comes down to is first) A fast-acting rule-knowing player who really wants to see a mucked hand after he or someone else calls is within their rights to do that. It's just incredibly annoying/douchey and bothers everyone at the table whether it was your mucked cards or not. Second) if the dealer enters the table under the impression that "in tournament, no hand muck," which is only about 1/4 of dealers at WSOP since they're all under-trained and from all over the country where rules are again different from state to state, cash to tournament. Personally, I can't stop myself from requesting to see a SEEN hand - one which a player shows his buddy-pal next to him before hopelessly attempting to muck his hand only to get swatted all Dwayne Howard style by me.
I don't care if a dude mucks his hand in a tournament and we were supposed to be able to see it but the dealer didn't enforce the rule so we don't. The reason is because we all have/lack (interesting english language moment where "have" = "lack" in context...) the SAME information so there's no one 2 hours later cold 4betting because he saw that the 3bettor was the earlier mucked hand and apparently it was a bluff allowing this guy to pull the 4bet trigger. Or WAS it a bluff? The 4bet could be a level or fantastic timing but do you see how we already have 3 relatively equal likelihoods for his range. They're equal because they're all coming from a source of pure guessing and zero hard info but THAT GUY has all the info.
Not on my watch. But seriously there's rarely a time that players outside of the hand in progress should be augmenting the process of OTHER players playing out theirs. Things like noticing a player is trying to get the dealer's attention for a stack-count and instead of nudging the dealer a player gets to play pretend dealer and since he had been paying attention he knew it was about $300 left in his stack so it just comes out. And that's a very big problem if you are off by =>$15 now the dealer is back and catching up w/ the action and HERO-GUY's mistake of miscounting ("$265 total" = guy who spoke up is way way in the wrong).
I guess I'm ranting a bit - likely due to just finishing nearly 2 months with these archetypal annoyances - but that doesn't take away from the main message which is just that you HAVE to keep your mouth shut even if you CAN help the hand move along it is not your job it's the dealer's so the most you can and EVER SHOULD DO is get the dealer's attention and then meditate away the pain of the situation : )
I believe in cash games (and this may depend on the casino), a player can muck their hand once called. But if player 1 is called and tries to muck, any other player can ask to see the hand. However, if the hand touches the muck then it is dead and not able to be shown.
In tournaments, once player 1 is called at the showdown, all hands must be shown.