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This is a case that calls for some floorman discretion. If the dealer clearly told the player to show his hand, and he complied, there's no way in hell I'm penalizing a player for that--I'll give the dealer a talking to later, because the only fair ruling I can make for player 3 partly screws player 1, and that ruling would be to treat the situation as I ...


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If it's a tournament following the official TDA rules then the following applies: 14: Live Cards at Showdown Discarding non-tabled cards face down does not automatically kill them; players may change their minds and table cards that remain 100% identifiable and retrievable. Cards are killed by the dealer when pushed into the muck or otherwise ...


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If both hands were face up on the table, the moment the last board card fell, the pot belonged to the player whose properly tabled hand was the best. The fact that he then turned it over and pushed his chips away is of no consequence--the game was already over, and those chips were his. If he had mucked his cards before showing them, that's different. But ...


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In this case the hand is live and fine. Pick your rule book, the biggest two, and most end local rules end up being a variant of either of them, are the WSOP Live action rules or the TDA rules. I think rule 106 best applies here: Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may be retrieved and ruled live ...


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I have seen this happen before, it really depends on the player who mucked their cards. They can either let it slide or call the floor over. It is definitely not cool to look at another players cards if they mucked them (from an etiquette standpoint). I believe dealers are also supposed to protect the muck, I have seen a lot of people try to turn over cards ...


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You only have to show your hand when you are up against at least one other, still not mucked hand and you want to claim the pot. You never have to show your cards otherwise. In this case you are the only one eligible for the pot and thus you don't have to show your hand. It is funny that he demands you to show your hand. The person that made the last ...


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Player 3's hand may be dead, or may not be dead, it depends entirely on the casino/cardclub. I have never been in any casino/card club, worked at or played in that has had this rule but please note there 100% are cardrooms and casinos that will consider the hand dead. In the casinos/cardrooms that won't kill the hand, the player will have to play with their ...


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If you request to see the hand , and it has not disappeared into the depths of the muck it can be shown. If the hand is shown it is generally a live hand, so you must show a better hand to claim the pot. Saken in reply to your comment it gets unclear if a hand is live or not if the player has mucked it. There are standards for what a folded hand is that ...


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You are not obliged automatically. It is common that someone bluffs, gets called and they muck the hand, and that is not against the rules. However the calling player can ask to see the hand and the request obligates the dealer to turn up the hand, if the hand is still available to turn up. Related post: Can a bettor concede his hand without showing it?


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The best way to handle this is for the dealer to call the floor over. The floor should explain that no player is allowed to touch another player's cards, and you're especially not allowed to touch the muck, which is in the dealer's possession. If it happens again, the player will be asked to leave. Handling it like this let's the offending player save face, ...


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If he wants to muck, he may attempt to do so and surrender the pot. But his opponents paid full price to see his hand, and they are legally entitled to see it, so they can ask the dealer to show the hand even if the player mucks. If the player actively tries to prevent the hand being shown, for example, by sticking the cards into the muck directly, he is ...


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This is tricky, and the exact timing of when things are done is important. When player 2 called, the hand went to showdown. At this point, both players are entitled to see their opponents hand on request, and if hands are shown, best hand wins. If player 1 merely announces "good call" or the like, that has no effect. If he releases control of his ...


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This is a good question. First point: Player 1 asks to see winning hand of Player 2, as he’s under the impression a winning hand still has to be shown in showdown to qualify for the pot. The contention that the player has to show his hand to win the pot is simply without base in the rules or logic. If the last live hand standing does not win the pot whom ...


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This is a major breach of etiquette. If the player wanted to see your cards, they had the option of paying to do so, and they didn't. As a dealer, I would have ideally protected the muck proactively, as this is a game security issue generally, though for bigger reasons than maintaining etiquette. That it happened despite (the lack of) this, the supervisor ...


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This scenario will depend on the local house rules. What you are referring to is known as the "last aggressor" rule. Some places do enforce that and would say that since the person bet last, they should show first. However, it is my understanding that this is not universal - in parts of Europe, the last person to act (in this case the caller, not the ...


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In the comments Bogdan asks a very good question, because there is no legitimate reason in the world you would want to do that. Pushing your cards out under your chips is unusual, unexpected, confusing and disorientating to the dealer and other players. One really ups the chances of your cards being mucked (by mistake?) when you do that. Most house's have ...


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Any dealer whom has been in industry for a year plus will have had this happen at least once (generalising I know, but it's common enough). So often I find myself posting the same thing when it comes to these situations, and the answer is it depends. There are kind of three main types of scenarios in general when these things can happen. So you said player ...


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I would say it's player dependent. I sometimes min-raise the river as a bluff against a good player, because most thinking players interpret the play as me having a strong hand. But don't do it very often. If it is some old guy at the card room that's min-raising you, he almost always has a good hand. If you know you're beat, just fold. Curiosity can cost ...


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While Lee is correct there can be some problems in this situation that could cause the player mucking the hand like that to lose the pot. The first problem is that video is not available, or the video is *so bad one cannot really figure out what the hand is. It could also be policy at a casino that they do not stop the game and run video, they feel it is ...


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